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Crusnik · Nov 11, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by unienaule

Dum de dum... what? I'm sorry, the sounds of greens dropping for me over the last 12 hours is drowning out your whining. Oh, and I've been playing an ele, with other AOE eles in my team.

Oh is that really so and how many runs did u make there in those 12 hours....... 2 ?? maybe 3 ??

OOOOOh i see noo its 1 u have been chasing enemys for the last 12 hours around grenths and Sorrows

Sjeeezzz

AirFlame · Nov 11, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

From this day on i will be running and screaming like a little girl :}

aron searle · Nov 11, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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PvE enemies are smarter now.

What game have you been playing.

unienaule · Nov 11, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Crusnik

Oh is that really so and how many runs did u make there in those 12 hours....... 2 ?? maybe 3 ??

OOOOOh i see noo its 1 u have been chasing enemys for the last 12 hours around grenths and Sorrows

Sjeeezzz

Actually, 4. And ate breakfast. And watched a movie on TV. Thanks.

Crusnik · Nov 11, 2005, 08:10 PM // 20:10

dont forget to equip your aoe skills AirFlame !! LoL

Sax Dakota · Nov 11, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by unienaule

So, is farming UW with 55hp nerfed?

If the 55hp is soloing...yes. A guildie and I took a 55hp monk, then we took 1 curse necro it worked quite well.

AirFlame · Nov 11, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Crusnik

dont forget to equip your aoe skills AirFlame !! LoL

I will equip a smither skills all enemy that do psychical dmg will be running like a little girls

MarkyX · Nov 11, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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PvP yep real challange there. Humm wait - THE SAME EXACT STUFF goes on there.

ROFLCOPTER

People who use those cookie cutter builds never even make it to HOH or do well in GVG.

So...yeah. Your argument = for teh lose.

mrlopes · Nov 11, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

As simple as that.

I play this game (PVE) cause i love it till yesterday. It's my stress reliefer after a work day.

Now is lost all the fun. When i want to real challenges i go PVP not PVE.
You've just go from one limit to the other.
Yes it's very amusing to see, mobs running at minimum signal of damage, give me a break, please

Note: Never done farming.

And i hate this update.

Goodbye GW.

Darkest Dawn · Nov 11, 2005, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Aracos79

I wasn't talking about all the people who play. My point was directed at FORUM POSTERS, the people who come here to complain or praise everything ANet does. WE are a minority, and a very small one at that. WE do NOT reflect the majority opinion of people that play. WE are not empowered to speak for them and make sweeping judgements about what everyone who plays the game wants. Just because the majority of posters here think the update sucks does NOT mean that the majority of all players feel that way. We are not the "be all/end all" of GW players.

I am one of those regular guys(married, and two kids, works full time etc.... )Just because I post on a forum doesn't make me a non person or a freak now.

And as said by another, I saw that most the towns were all about the very thing we are discussing here. So it is not just the online posters as you claimed.

Granted, the other's post was a bit too brutal, but to judge an arguement by dismissing them as one of the online freakish minorities(my words) that is not fair.

yeaitsjim · Nov 11, 2005, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Aracos79

How about brutal ignorance? I wasn't talking about all the people who play. My point was directed at FORUM POSTERS, the people who come here to complain or praise everything ANet does. WE are a minority, and a very small one at that. WE do NOT reflect the majority opinion of people that play. WE are not empowered to speak for them and make sweeping judgements about what everyone who plays the game wants. Just because the majority of posters here think the update sucks does NOT mean that the majority of all players feel that way. We are not the "be all/end all" of GW players.

Who are you to tell us that we cannot speak for ourselves? - Think also, that perhaps you are definately not inclued when we say "we or us". Also you do not speak for this "other majority you speak of", and we don't predend to speak for then as you have already, perhaps the average gamer knows nothing of these forums. So please, do not put us in "our place". This is a discussion here, and I would appreciate it if you were not to attack me, and those that share my opionins by calling us "ignorant" for having our own views.

And as a disclaimer for all - these forums seem to be one of the only ways we are able to express ourselves and as opposed to doing something like "/bug this update sucks in case you were wondering."

GWGuru · Nov 11, 2005, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by scott_da_ele

Since you bought 8 sets of 15k armor, you should probably have a good number of skills points built up. What exactly are you planning on doing with them? Waiting for the expansion should be your answer, but wow, you probably have enough to buy every new skill available. How fun is that?

I don't have any skills left to unlock in this game so there is nothing I can do with skill points...if they carry over to the second chapter I will use them on chapter 2 skills...if not I will continue to do nothing with them.

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Guild Wars is not a MMORPG? Interesting. What have I been playing all this time? It's online, it has multiple people, it's an RPG. Like you said, maybe not your typical but tell me again why this game isn't for me.....

It's *BARELY* and RPG....

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I said I want CONTENT to keep me busy - ok. Strategy came into play with the story and quests. How ever did I make it through the game (multiple, multiple times) without thinking? Maybe while I was mindlessly "button smashing," I stumbled on the correct combonation each and every time.

I've taken a warrior a ranger and a monk through the game in it's entirety using only the armor and skills available to me in pre-searing...the PvE aspect of this game requires little more than smashing buttons(or at least it did)

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Question: How exactly did you earn all that money/resources for those 8 sets (not including yours). Farm? or perhaps you ran people which is about the only thing left to do.

you do realize that the chest in the Hall drops some pretty valuable items right?

apocalypse_xx · Nov 11, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by mrlopes

As simple as that.

I play this game (PVE) cause i love it till yesterday. It's my stress reliefer after a work day.

Now is lost all the fun. When i want to real challenges i go PVP not PVE.
You've just go from one limit to the other.
Yes it's very amusing to see, mobs running at minimum signal of damage, give me a break, please

Note: Never done farming.

And i hate this update.

Goodbye GW.

Couldn't have said it better myself...except part of my fun was farming, was leaving GW before the update anyways, far too little in GW for people who like to play online games like me

Lord Oranos · Nov 11, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by GWGuru

you do realize that the chest in the Hall drops some pretty valuable items right?

Not everyone wants to pvp to make money.

Sax Dakota · Nov 11, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Well guess what guys. This forces people making parties to bring other classes in the mix. Necro/mesmer/ranger etc. So...if you were a mesmer prior you were screwed bottom line. Now, that they have made this update, mesmers/necros/rangers will be more popular. And pve is too easy with 3 echo nukers anyway......You gotta adapt. Some of the community actually likes this update.

Go Anet!

~Sax

yeaitsjim · Nov 11, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by GWGuru

I don't have any skills left to unlock in this game so there is nothing I can do with skill points...if they carry over to the second chapter I will use them on chapter 2 skills...if not I will continue to do nothing with them.

It's *BARELY* and RPG....

I've taken a warrior a ranger and a monk through the game in it's entirety using only the armor and skills available to me in pre-searing...the PvE aspect of this game requires little more than smashing buttons(or at least it did)

you do realize that the chest in the Hall drops some pretty valuable items right?

Dude, requardless of what you think an RPG IS? I'm confused. Cause like bascially, I got these four dudes right, and when I log in I pick on right? Then after then I run around pretending to kill vitual stuff with a fake sword - humm I was thinking i was playing a role. I completely agree with Scott, and I don't understand why you have such animosity toward the poor guy. Because you don't have any skills to unlock, guess what you get to do, you get to run around and play with the AI that now runs around aimlessly when you sneeze one them. So please don't take out your lack of creativity on Scott or the rest of us.

Fantus · Nov 11, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by GWGuru

Iyou do realize that the chest in the Hall drops some pretty valuable items right?

You mean for the like 5% of the playerbase who actually play competitively enough to be able to win HoH?

... how are the other 95% of all GW players supposed to get their money from, then?

Lord Oranos · Nov 11, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Sax Dakota

Well guess what guys. This forces people making parties to bring other classes in the mix. Necro/mesmer/ranger etc. So...if you were a mesmer prior you were screwed bottom line. Now, that they have made this update, mesmers/necros/rangers will be more popular. And pve is too easy with 3 echo nukers anyway......You gotta adapt. Some of the community actually likes this update.

Go Anet!

~Sax

This doesnt affect just echo nukers.

Memphis · Nov 11, 2005, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by apocalypse_xx

I agree Memphis, why not just ban solo play, you can't leave a town without a full party, at least the team players can still enjoy their game they way they knew it

From the point of view of a player that farms and solos often, that's really the last thing I want

If none of my guild are online or need help then I'll play solo and/or farm. It keeps me occupied, it's fun, it's what I want to do.
If I cant farm or solo when noone's on, I won't log on. Simple as that.
Completely nerfing solo play can only drive players away.

Not to mention it's the only way, bar logging on ebay, that I'd have got my 15k sets and start saving for fissure armour. Im proud of what I've earned by playing in a legit way. I have killed and collected all I need myself, yet Anet seems to believe this is indeed not legit and is cutting me and everyone else off. Whilst others simply buy money online and cheat their way to the top. It's my time to waste and if I choose to invest it in farming, I deserve to reap the rewards.

Back a bit more on topic, I can't believe this patch has been properly tested by experienced players and then just thrown at us, forcing the way we play the whole game to change. If it has, it's going to seriously shaft my opinion of Anet, up until this point has been stellar (disregarding a few previous skill nerfs). However previous nerfs have only been nothing more than a minor irritation.
I kinda feel rather letdown in fact that seemingly Anet is so focused on stopping solo play, they've gone and caused a whole other argument over AoE and whether a whole other class is any use whatsoever. I'd just liek see an apology for them making a stupid change that hadn't been thought through and fix it. Or they'll lose a lot more players than they may think they do due to soloing monks. IMO they've done nothing but push the war on farming into the streets.

Those trying to convince others that this update was an 'evolution' of the game and the rest of us to go play something else? Well i'll argue I play this game because I like(d) this game. I may have characters maxed out but I still want to keep playing because it's still fun. I'm sure many others are the same. Maybe those who need the change so much should be the one's to try another game?
This is not an 'update' or improvement. An entire set of skills set has been pratically rendered useless.

This update is a mistake and I'm willing to bet things will be put back, if only to keep the countless nukers with pratically nothing to do.
How many players would stay in a game such as Quake 3 if ID suddenly decided rocket jumps and railguns had to go? You can't just (even indirectly, as this may be) strip previously attainable content and choice from a game and expect people to like it. It better get fixed and bloody fast.

blueyoda · Nov 11, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21

You wish ... they're exactly the same ~ Mesmers were the tacticians ~ slowly take 'em out ... Tanks took the heat while ele's cast their "slow" spells which helped to take 'em out fast. Rangers got distance and powerful attacks. No group was better than another and you couldn't truley survive one battle by yourself.

now it just takes longer and spells are basically canceled out ~ was fun ..

not just ele's ~ all AoE skills. If it were just Ele ... then I'd accept defeat and work with my other characters ... but naturally, everyone of my characters is effected a lot.